Please see is a transcript of an interview with North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum on “Face the Nation” that aired on June 2, 2024.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We flip now to North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum. In line with our CBS Information reporting, he’s beneath critical attention by means of the previous president to turn into his working mate on this crusade. Excellent morning to you, Governor.
GOV. DOUG BURGUM (R-ND): Excellent morning, Margaret. Excellent to be with you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It’s excellent to have you ever again on “Face the Nation.” You simply heard our polling there. 57% American citizens assume the jury reached the appropriate verdict. 56% assume Trump obtained an excellent trial. A majority of American citizens are unconvinced by means of this declare that it’s all a sham. Why do you assume it’s?
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, I feel a part of it, after all, polling is some extent in moment and I had a probability to in short have a look at a few of your ballot numbers this morning. And I additionally noticed there that virtually two thirds of the respondents stated they weren’t paying near consideration. And I remember the fact that they’re now not paying near consideration to the trial, as a result of maximum American citizens in the market, , they’ve got- operating American citizens don’t have moment to observe, , TV all while, learn each and every record, as a result of they’re going through all of the issues, , striking meals at the desk, gasoline within the automotive, all of the demanding situations that they’re going through. And I feel that as this life in moment passes, when now we have the election coming q4, humans are committing to put together a choice about, have been they higher, are they at an advantage these days than they have been 4 years in the past? And here’s an ordinary factor, that- here’s not- President Trump’s now not a candidate that’s unknown or by no means run earlier than. They’d a possibility to are living their age beneath 4 years of him. They usually had a probability to, , prosper. They usually had a probability to grasp what the arena became like. Refuse wars. And now that- it’s an excessively other condition. So I- I feel neatly, this is- it’s attention-grabbing, and it’s charming at the moment to a accumulation of humans, the election isn’t going to show in this trial.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The U.S. isn’t interested in a struggle at the moment, both. However, in–
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, we’re interested in two proxy wars.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We have been next as neatly. However on- in your level, Donald Trump spends a accumulation of moment speaking about those trials. It- it’s now not simply reporters. And it’s ancient. However he talks fairly a accumulation about it. And, in reality, he held an in depth information convention Friday with a litany of grievances towards the pass judgement on, who will nonetheless must make a decision on his sentencing. Non-public judgment sensible, do you assume that became a ingenious factor to do?
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, I’ve a accumulation of empathy for what he should really feel like, and- as a result of as a industry individual, I- and I- any person who spent- and I spent 30 years in tech, yet a accumulation of that became in device that handled industry processes, I’ve- I’ve by no means noticeable the rest like this, the place you’ll, , magically rush, , a transaction that will get unfold out over 11- 11 paychecks, or paychecks- 12 vouchers, , 11 invoices, and unexpectedly each and every of the ones round one resolution, they magically turn into eager of misdemeanors, they turn into a legal. And in the event that they’re misdemean–
MARGARET BRENNAN: As a result of the election fraud. That- as you simply heard.
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly- but- I don’t know that anyone in The us, if we’re asking concerning the voter, I don’t know if any one American can give an explanation for how a industry transaction submitting, mistakes from 7 years in the past, turn into federal election legislation, when federal election legislation isn’t a surrounding, here’s introduced in a county courtroom. Federal election is federal. And I don’t know the alchemy of reworking those misdemeanors, which had a two moment statute of boundaries. Smartly, I’m pronouncing from a industry standpoint, CEOs round The us, for those who’ve had masses of thousands and thousands of industrial filings in The us within the ultimate 7 years, why aren’t our courts clogged with alternative CEOs that have been dragged in entrance of–
MARGARET BRENNAN: In the event that they have been working for president and converting the ones industry data to difficult to understand donations to their very own campaign- what I’m pronouncing, this isn’t simply submitting error. However–
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, I- I pay attention what you’re pronouncing. However maximum American citizens can not give an explanation for it. Lots of the prison experts–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Must- it’s sophisticated. Positive.
GOV. BURGUM: Lots of the prison consultants that stood at the curb out of doors the courthouse for six years can’t- for six weeks, can’t give an explanation for it. So American citizens are going to return again to the problems that have an effect on them as a result of this trial result doesn’t have an effect on them. Their- inflation impacts them–
MARGARET BRENNAN: It does. And I need to speak about a few of the ones problems extra extensive with you in a couple of mins. We simply submit a graph to- to turn you our- our polling, it’s two thirds of the ones polled stated they’re looking at carefully. However in- in relation to like, the bookkeeping argument, this became a couple of prison conspiracy to persuade an election and growing bureaucracy to safeguard it up. If the quibble is set bureaucracy violations, the president of the US, his son, says, beneath the affect of substances, he dedicated a bureaucracy error. That’s now committing to federal courtroom as a result of what he did in buying that gun. That became a bureaucracy violation. Are you additionally indignant by means of that? Is that still a miscarriage of justice?
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, I feel what’s unhappy for The us is the entire weaponization of the- the gadget. And what we’re going to peer extra of this, I heartless, previous in–
MARGARET BRENNAN: You assume it’s weaponized towards Hunter Biden?
GOV. BURGUM: I feel that is- is weaponized towards President Trump. However for those who’re going to discuss equivalency within the courts, next we all know that media firms have- have stated that they labored in- at the side of the government to withhold details about Hunter Biden’s computer right through an election moment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That’s not true in any way relating to this journalist or the reporters concerned with this program.
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, next why was- why have been his tales about it taken ill off of media firms? Why- why- why became it being suppressed right through that election? Why- so- why- speaking concerning the Steele file, I heartless, shall we exit again. There- there may be a wide variety of items occurring in our nation indistinguishable to election integrity, and I feel whether or not you’re an detached, you’re a Democrat, you’re a Republican, we will have to all offer about election integrity. And- and we- and if we want- if we need to have equivalency, then- it- to put together positive that we’ve got a degree enjoying farmland.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We need to end this dialog at the alternative aspect of this business fracture. So let me do this and we’ll end it. So stick with me, Governor, and stick with us. One 2nd.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome again to “Face the Nation.” We need to proceed our dialog now with North Dakota Republican governor, Doug Burgum. Governor, North Dakota has super calories assets, and also you reportedly are serving to the Trump crusade craft calories coverage. That’s correct?
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, I wouldn’t say that. I’m simply pronouncing that I’m volunteering to aid President Trump right through this crusade, as a result of as an calories affluent prosperous surrounding filled with herbal assets. And I’ve had the consideration of being a governor beneath President Trump and in addition beneath President Biden. And I see the extra between the 2 administrations. And I’ve obtained a entrance row seat in working out that the- the Biden calories insurance policies are, , crisp at the American shoppers, they’re empowering adversaries out of the country, and so they’re truly tricky on our allies.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There- there may be extra oil being produced on this nation now than any nation ever. 13 million barrels in line with while ultimate moment.
GOV. BURGUM: Yeah, and North Dakota is ill and Iran is up beneath those insurance policies. And the insurance policies are constructed round the concept in some way for those who close ill the U.S. calories {industry}, that- that that’s gonna be excellent for the atmosphere. But if we oppose manufacturing right here, it can be upper than it’s been before–
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MARGARET BRENNAN: It has- it’s.Â
GOV. BURGUM: –by a- a modest bit. Nevertheless it will have to be a lot upper, as a result of we will have to be displacing calories coming from Venezuela–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Smartly, let me ask you about that. Let me–
GOV. BURGUM: –coming from Iran, coming from Russia.Â
MARGARET BRENNAN: Let me ask you about that.
GOV. BURGUM: The humans which might be investment the wars that we’re combating are doing that on their oil gross sales.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Let me ask you that. Is- in step with the “Washington Post,” and their reporting, Donald Trump met with oil executives and stated, in the event that they carry 1000000000 greenbacks to go back him to the White Area, he’ll shed legislation if elected, get started auctioning off rentals for drilling–
GOV. BURGUM: I used to be at- I used to be at that assembly, that didn’t occur. That’s not what came about at that assembly. And that’s been reported over and over again and over again–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Did he ask for 1000000000 greenbacks in donations?
GOV. BURGUM: He didn’t ask for 1000000000 greenbacks in donations, and there became refuse quid professional quo. I heartless, assume what he did ultimate moment for the energy- this man short legislation for everyone, whether or not they donated to him or now not, he helped get gasoline costs ill for all American citizens, Republicans, independents and Democrats, whether or not they donated to him or not–
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Smartly–
GOV. BURGUM: –drives me crazy–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –the financial system became additionally close down–
GOV. BURGUM: –what- prices- the humans went on-
MARGARET BRENNAN: –due to covid- decrease prices–
GOV. BURGUM: –people going to hearsay- that weren’t on the assembly, on rumour, record it love it’s a reality, when it’s now not a reality.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Smartly, I’m asking you to put together positive. The “Washington Post” additionally reported that Trump instructed to these oil executives he would vacay scrutiny of {industry}, mergers and acquisitions if he wins. Do you assume that the {industry} must consolidate and Bulky Oil must get larger?
GOV. BURGUM: I feel that the- independent undertaking must function in tactics which might be successfully so that you can compete on a global- on a worldwide stage and what’s occurring within the industry–
MARGARET BRENNAN: So he would do this.Â
GOV. BURGUM: I’m now not pronouncing he would do this. However I let you know what- what Joe Biden’s management is doing at the moment. Two firms need to merge. And next they arrive in and next they, what, they confiscate all of the executives’ telephone numbers forward of moment, put together accusations about collusions. This hasn’t ever came about to any other {industry}.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, what became promised in that assembly, because you stated you have been there?
GOV. BURGUM: He- he didn’t put together guarantees. He- concentrate, he went across the room for 2 hours, asking each and every of the humans to inform me, what are your demanding situations? What are you going through? What are- what are the issues that- he became there studying the entire night time concerning the demanding situations that we’re going through.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, is he focused on the {industry} to- to finance his reelection bid?
GOV. BURGUM: I feel any one he’s met with, he’ll be assembly with humans in Silicon Valley, he’s assembly humans in- throughout each and every {industry}. He’s now not focused on any one. He’s doing what applicants do, which is, you exit and concentrate to an {industry}, and this {industry} particularly, which is the elemental to all of the financial system. It’s now not only one {industry}, it feeds the inflation which is affecting each and every American, to mention, what are we able to do to assemble cleaner calories extra successfully? President Trump talks all of the moment about getting oil costs ill. Oil executives don’t seem to be extremely joyful when he says, I’m committing to get oil costs ill. You understand, they- they put together extra money when oil costs are up.
MARGARET BRENNAN: K, so, atmosphere and environmental coverage are impressive to younger electorate particularly. Are you in any respect involved that you are going to alienate them by means of aligning so carefully with the calories {industry}?
GOV. BURGUM: Smartly, I’m now not desirous about it in any respect as a result of I do know in North Dakota, we’re- we- we’re generating calories cleaner, more secure and smarter than any place else on this planet right here in the US.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So that you do need to hold one of the crucial environmental restrictions, next?
GOV. BURGUM: The environmental restrictions are hurting this nation, they’re now not serving to it. If innovation- reg- humans who assume that you simply’re going to resolve the environmental problems with rules, the way in which we remedy the like with innovation. And the way in which we remedy it with innovation is we innovate to have 0 carbon liquid fuels or low carbon liquid fuels. The Biden management is on Staff China, they need to have each and every automotive be an EV. And next we obtained to get- China controls 85% of the uncommon earth minerals.
MARGARET BRENNAN: However- yet they only tariffed them- would communicate to you for an presen about uncommon earth minerals, Sir, we’ll must have you ever come again any other moment to discuss that international pageant. However we’re gonna must let fall it there.